More on the weevils of Todd Bentley

Definition of religious spirit per my pastor: Only see what is good in yourself and only see what is wrong in others. His sermon was about grace.

Here’s why it happened:

“At the same time, Todd was facing a second wave of attack. This was from the covens, the warlocks – we heard firsthand concerning some of these assignments. The enemy had heard of the great honoring of the Lamb and was determined to destroy it – BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE AND AT ANY COST.”

It’s all the witches fault!

I’ve never had the urge to have pictures drawn on me (or holes poked in me either) but why in Japanese? Why not “King David” in Hebrew?

I agree that the witchcraft tipped an already full bowl. Where he was in sin, who is to say God was not dealing with him like us all during those intense times of worship.

I talked with some intercessors down there. It was bad. I think the intercessors needed reinforcements and the body dropped the ball. I know I did, I was too busy loving the worship to interceed.

Forgive me Lord…

Exactly Rev!

This sounds like another attempt to lay fault elsewhere. The old, ‘The devil made me do it’.

Christians have been putting the fear of witchcraft infiltration into the minds of the church forever. Having seen from both sides, it’s just not happening.

If it is at all, it’s by their own doings, not that of pagans.

Like Rev. Merry says, no one an cause someone else to fall. Yes, Satan can put stumbling blocks (temptations) in our path, “but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed” (James 1:14). We can pray for God to protect His servants from physical attack (illness, assault, etc.) and even ask Him to grant grace and strength to withstand temptation (which He does anyway, (I Cor. 10:13), but if a person decides to disregard God’s help, and willingly open the door to Satan by yielding to temptation, then that person’s free will rules.

Im bewildered (actually that may not be the most correct word describing what Im feeling but..) (a) they had to list their success stories to assist in keeping their reputation never mind that Wendy Alec prophesied falsely that Jesus would appear in person…and (b)that the covens are partly responsible for Todds personal misdemeanour Too much power gets credited to covens

http://us.god.tv/

Thank you Kathi for the email. And Alycia for the link.

I’ll say just a couple of things…

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This was from the covens, the warlocks – we heard firsthand concerning some of these assignments. The enemy had heard of the great honoring of the Lamb and was determined to destroy it – BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE AND AT ANY COST

There is no explanation here at all. Covens? The warlocks? What the heck does this mean?? Like Anita, I too am bewildered.

I’d like some kind of explanation as to HOW witchcraft played a part in this, but it seems no one really knows how.

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>>we also know that there were dear souls, sheep, who were scattered as a result of Todd’s personal choices. The Bible says that “hope deferred makes the heart sick”

Now see, this is what I’ve been saying all along – people DO get hurt by things like this. And whether or not certain Christians think they should, it happens.

If people can’t see a difference in the lives of Christians, especially those in leadership position, then what is the point of Christianity – how can it be the hope of the world?

Now I’m just curious, a few days ago Jules commented on Wendy and her prophesying that Jesus would appear on stage. What was this about? And why hasn’t she come forward and apologized? This really should be addressed or how can there be any credibility in anything that she says from here on?

Some of this stuff does get kind of weird. Wasn’t it Oral Roberts who years ago said that God told him that unless people gave him enough to reach something like a million dollars, that he, God, would take his life?!

Well of course he never got the money, and God didn’t come and get him either. And then there was never another thing said about it.

This kind of thing goes on all the time, and no one ever comes forward to admit their falseness. Nor does anyone ever make them be accountable – it’s just accepted and forgotten. This is SO wrong!

In conclusion, I find this letter just another attempt for excuse. Someday I’d like to hear someone say that Todd Bentley was wrong – plain and simple. No excuses. Just as we are viewed when we sin.

Of course no one is perfect, and yes he deserves forgiveness, but there needs to be admition with what happened first. He won’t get help by everyone making excuses for him. And then TB in turn needs to publicly appologize also. I think this is very important. JMO.

It’s late – I need to go to bed, so I hope this makes sense.

Donna, yes TB was wrong. So were those who fully believed in him and not in God. Oh as for Oral Roberts I was in Tulsa at that time, and I heard a millionaire did come forth and give him the money and will find out if true. Its time to stop blaming others for our down falls. If we must look who is at fault most of us have mirrors in our homes, so lets start with ourselves first. Why again do I say TB was wrong. What pressure in a short time would cause him to have an affair. I work a full time job, minister Sunday Morning and Evening and Wednesday Evening. I am on the phone after work with someone from my church. I guess that would not be considered pressure. At 59 it is. I am on the go most Saturdays doing something more for members than myself. Monday mornings after two services I feel bed is a good place to stay to rest, but work comes on Monday. We can use pressure or whatever, but give it a break. Pressure didn’t cause the affair, TB did

Now no one take this wrong (someone will…)

Just a question. Why does TB need to as for forgiveness to us? We cannot redeem him.

All he can say to us is that he was sorry that he did not have his entire life straightened out before God decided to drop in on a meeting of his while he was just doing what he was doing.

He should not have been doing ministry at all at the time mind you. No one argues that point. Perhaps is that what ppl want him to ask forgiveness for?

God had a choice, why did God come. And he did come, I will not argue with anyone over that. I know the presence of God, you cannot fake that no matter how hard you try.

Forget signs, forget wonders, forget miracles. It was the presence of God at these meetings that was unusually strong.

Can someone explain exactly “what” they want him to repent for. What is going to make you happy? I am just curious.

Ppl all over the net want him to repent and do this and that. I have a great suspicion that everyone wants their “pet” sin repented for. False prophet, wolf, adulterer, drunk, deceiver etc.

Only God can judge and decide what needs to be done. If I was TB I would asking God what he needs me to do. Not swayed by what ppl want me to do. We may or may not ever hear from him again. Can we live with that and admit that God can and will move where ever he wants?

Donna, I said too much already of a confidence I had. Let Kathi address the witchcraft.

I look forward to when Kathi blogs on how witchcraft had a play in the revival.

Now Kathi, one thing, if their use of the words coven and warlock(?) are not what we would view as witchcraft(?)(question marks because this whole thing baffles me), then they should be careful in what words they do use. Statements like this are why the church has such a warped view of what witchcraft is about in the first place.

And Kelly, I only asked you because you made the statement, “I agree that the witchcraft tipped an already full bowl.”
I thought that since you agreed with this then you must have a reason why you agreed.

Witchcraft had alot to due with the downfall of Todd Bentley. Primarily because Todd Bentley and his “handlers” were practicing the “art of witchcraft”. Those that propped Bentley up, a wanton false teacher, practioner, a serial liar, regarding his past sin, when he received his tattoos, his “confessed lie that God told him to call people to give him money…I think it was a 1,000 people to give $1,000…and is still enjoying the cash. His old ministry calims and admits there WAS adultery…AGAIN for at least the second time we know of. Instead of steeping aside, he leaves his wife, his children, and marries someone his wife trusted as a partner in ministry, and then the “new wife” is on TV talking about deception and mistakes. Right now Todd Bentley IS an unrepentant adulterer, and the notion he is being restored by of all people Rick Joyner who is a New Age warlock if I have ever seen one, is making he and Jess….twice as much a son of Hell as he was before.

It’s like talking to a brick wall really. You continue to demonstrate a complete unwillingness to examine Bentley’s life and doctrine, and his associates, who by their lack of fruit, character demonstrate that they are not “fit for office”, according to the word. Period. Signs wonders…there are warning from Christ, that there are people who will heal the sick, prophesy, and yet he says “Away from me you workers of iniquity..I never KNEW you.” And Bentely, doesn’t know Jesus…know “things” about Jesus, but very little. Mostly Fakeland was about TODD. This wicked and perverse genration in enamored with celebrities, and sadly, the Church acts liek the culture and the world. How many decades have prophets and ministers been calling the Word of Faith to task for the heresies that the “teach?” And yet they are beyind wealthy….financially at least. How many decades have people exposed the heresy of the NAR poster boy of filth…Willaim Branham, who regarded the TRUTH of the Trinity as blasphemous…adn yet, alleged prophets such as Paul Cain, and Bob Jones, prophesied that Bentley has a Brnahma anoiinting…He very well may…and beleiveing Branham’s theology…and it’s damnable ramifactions has defiled thousands, and they basically believe another Jesus.
I raraely ever heard Bentley talk about holiness, sanctification…just fanciful schemes and rre-gurgitated lies and techniques. I saw him to flat out “cold reading” new agae techniques, he would prophesy something he “heard” it would be shown to inaccurate,a nd then he would simply move on…maybe toss out a Bam…they fall over an d people pronounce that a demonstration of the Spirit’s power. Pure unadulterated unwillingness to examine waht he says, and does…because of a demonstration of “power”. How would you react if Ken, decided to merely “set you aside” if tragically some little “hottie” decided to comfort him because of issues in your marriage? If Ken, demonstrated signs and wonders, and could draw a crowd…the word teaches us in the end the very thing will, and is occuring in these last days, how would you react? Still haven’t answered any questions about character Kathi…because to do so, to really look at the word and who is qualified, and who is NOT, is actaully not that difficult. It may take courage, to confess and repent. I know it is for me. To realize I have been duped, lied to, and that I went along for the sake if unity or love, but violated principles of revealed trutht by the Spirit, throught the Word of God alone.

Sadly…you aren’t taking God’s Word seriously…you really solely on your feelings and emotions. “Talking” to you, trying to warn you AGAIN…I tried to even before Bentley’s second affair, before more of his falsehoods have been exposed, on this very blog..and yet you still “beleive.” Trying to reason with you is like try to reason with those within the ranks of Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons..