Comments on: The Manifest Sons of God controversy http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/ ...and by His stripes we are healed. (Is. 53:5) Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-6797 Anonymous Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:16:00 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-6797 Thank you! If you enjoyed that you might also enjoy this one: http://iamhealed.net/2010/09/20/ive-become-one-of-those-people/ :) Thank you! If you enjoyed that you might also enjoy this one: http://iamhealed.net/2010/09/20/ive-become-one-of-those-people/ :)

]]> By: GJacksonT http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-6796 GJacksonT Sat, 30 Jul 2011 07:25:00 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-6796 What a great article you have written. You thoughts were clear, concise, accurate and most of all: biblically based. I am excited about seeing some more of your work in the near future.  God Bless   GJacksonT What a great article you have written. You thoughts were clear, concise, accurate and most of all: biblically based. I am excited about seeing some more of your work in the near future.  God Bless   GJacksonT

]]> By: I’ve become one of “those” people. » I Am Healed! http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-5381 I’ve become one of “those” people. » I Am Healed! Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:20:42 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-5381 [...] ways back, I wrote a lengthy article about the Manifest Sons of God Controversy. I’d been accused of being “one of those people” – MSOG, Kingdom Now, NAR, [...] [...] ways back, I wrote a lengthy article about the Manifest Sons of God Controversy. I’d been accused of being “one of those people” – MSOG, Kingdom Now, NAR, [...]

]]> By: Craig http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-5271 Craig Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:18:00 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-5271 Setting aside the 'born again' issue for now, Scripture is clear that Jesus preexisted as God [John 1:1-2,14 / Gen 1:1-2,26] and He was God at the Incarnation: Immanuel -- 'God with us:' <i>14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.</i> [Isaiah 7:14 NIV] <i>18This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. 19Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man and did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. 20But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,because he will save his people from their sins." 22All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23"The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"—which means, "God with us."</i> [Matthew 1:18-23 NIV] <i>11Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ[a] the Lord. Footnotes: Luke 2:11 Or Messiah. "The Christ" (Greek) and "the Messiah" (Hebrew) both mean "the Anointed One"; also in verse 26.</i> [Luke 2:11 NIV] The above taken from biblegateway.com. Clearly Jesus was God and also The Christ at the Incarnation. Setting aside the ‘born again’ issue for now, Scripture is clear that Jesus preexisted as God [John 1:1-2,14 / Gen 1:1-2,26] and He was God at the Incarnation:

Immanuel — ‘God with us:’

14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. [Isaiah 7:14 NIV]

18This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. 19Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man and did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.
20But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,because he will save his people from their sins.”

22All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23″The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”—which means, “God with us.” [Matthew 1:18-23 NIV]

11Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ[a] the Lord.

Footnotes:
Luke 2:11 Or Messiah. “The Christ” (Greek) and “the Messiah” (Hebrew) both mean “the Anointed One”; also in verse 26. [Luke 2:11 NIV]

The above taken from biblegateway.com.

Clearly Jesus was God and also The Christ at the Incarnation.

]]> By: Kay http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-5270 Kay Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:52:28 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-5270 I may have to revisit the "manifest sons of God" issue... sitting with some friends last night talking and I realized "Wow, I really have become one of those people!" :) I may have to revisit the “manifest sons of God” issue… sitting with some friends last night talking and I realized “Wow, I really have become one of those people!” :)

]]> By: Kay http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-5269 Kay Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:51:12 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-5269 Craig, I'll listen to the sermon and read the post later... (the coffee needs to settle in nicely) ... but if the quote on your blog is what you're talking about, I <strong>fully </strong>agree with Johnson's Christology. Craig, I’ll listen to the sermon and read the post later… (the coffee needs to settle in nicely) … but if the quote on your blog is what you’re talking about, I fully agree with Johnson’s Christology.

]]> By: Craig http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-5266 Craig Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:24:35 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-5266 Are you aware that Bill Johnson claims Jesus was 'born again?' Here's an uncut sermon with this statement and explanation from December 23, 2009: http://ewenhuffman.podbean.com/2009/12/23/jesus-is-our-model-sermon-of-the-week-20-dec-09 The 'Jesus born again' portion begins at 33:48. Johnson also claims Jesus did not become 'Christ' until his baptism on page 79 of his book <i>When Heaven Invades Earth</i>. There's a lengthy discussion of Bill Johnson's Christology over here: http://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/bill-johnsons-born-again-jesus-part-i/ You are welcome to comment if you'd like. Are you aware that Bill Johnson claims Jesus was ‘born again?’ Here’s an uncut sermon with this statement and explanation from December 23, 2009:

http://ewenhuffman.podbean.com/2009/12/23/jesus-is-our-model-sermon-of-the-week-20-dec-09

The ‘Jesus born again’ portion begins at 33:48.

Johnson also claims Jesus did not become ‘Christ’ until his baptism on page 79 of his book When Heaven Invades Earth. There’s a lengthy discussion of Bill Johnson’s Christology over here:

http://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/bill-johnsons-born-again-jesus-part-i/

You are welcome to comment if you’d like.

]]> By: KathiSharpe http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-4791 KathiSharpe Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:29:36 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-4791 It's been half a year almost -- Finally got, in my hands, a copy of When Heaven Invades Earth (Bill Johnson) so I can comment on it to WB. I'll just put it this way, now that I've read it. Johnson's right (on a lot of things, but particular to the conversation, about the nature of Jesus). As I wrapped my mind around it last night, studied the Scripture, bounced it off a trusted friend and mentor, I realized that by making Him out to be more than He was, we really make Him into something less than He is. It's been half a year almost — Finally got, in my hands, a copy of When Heaven Invades Earth (Bill Johnson) so I can comment on it to WB.

I'll just put it this way, now that I've read it. Johnson's right (on a lot of things, but particular to the conversation, about the nature of Jesus). As I wrapped my mind around it last night, studied the Scripture, bounced it off a trusted friend and mentor, I realized that by making Him out to be more than He was, we really make Him into something less than He is.

]]> By: Joan http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-4340 Joan Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:25:50 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-4340 For more reasons why God will let the church be purified during the future worldwide reign of the you-know-who, Google "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty." Disgusted, Joan For more reasons why God will let the church be purified during the future worldwide reign of the you-know-who, Google "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty." Disgusted, Joan

]]> By: Lexi Jesus http://iamhealed.net/2009/11/29/the-manifest-sons-of-god-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-4274 Lexi Jesus Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:39:08 +0000 http://iamhealed.net/?p=1812#comment-4274 A sinner standing before an infinitely holy God, when grasped, is a terrifying prospect indeed. <a href="http://bible.postedpost.com/">Lexi Jesus</a> A sinner standing before an infinitely holy God, when grasped, is a terrifying prospect indeed. Lexi Jesus

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